Posts by Pete Zahut

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Disfellowship, Disassociate, or fade. What would you do different.

by John Aquila in

hindsight: .

many times because of the shock of learning ttatt, a person loses it.

you want to scream and tell the whole world that the watchtower is a big lie.

Pete Zahut

We faded, the only thing I'd do differently is I would have done it sooner, I wouldn't explain to, argue with or show anyone the reasons I decided to leave. They don't care or want to know and it can make you crazy trying to make them understand.

The one other thing I might have liked to have done, is to make subtle comments at the meeting that show the irony of what is being said now compared to what was once called "the truth". It would have also been fun to leave copies of old magazine covers (see below) lying around at the Kingdom Hall, on car windshields, in the restroom etc...showing some of the past issues that made life changing claims that everybody trusted but ended being totally incorrect. Then sit back and watch the ensuing drama as the tried to ferret out the wicked apostate who is using their own literature against them.

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Was it worth it?

by John Aquila in

for those of you who left family and friends and had to start over from scratch just to get out of the organization, was it worth it?.

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Pete Zahut

It's not a matter of was it worth it, It was more a matter of not being able to go on with it any longer until there was no longer any option. When you get to that point, anything is an improvement even if you do have to take some big hits in many areas, the biggest being the loss of your own personal history and the network of friends you had built up over the years.

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"Make a list of people you want to meet in the New System!" (New September Watchtower)

by FusionTheism in

watchtower september 2015 study edition, "stand firm in the faith," paragraphs 16 and 17:.

following jesus example, we must read the bible daily, study it, and meditate on what we learn.

along with general bible study, dig into topics about which you may have questions.. you can imitate jesus by meditating on the wonderful promises jehovah has made to you.

Pete Zahut

I'd like to meet my grandmother again but it won't be quite the same if she is as young and beautiful as she was in the photos of her when she was young. In fact, it will be downright weird.

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What's the Worst Gossip You Heard About Why You were DF'ed, Faded or Left and Never Came Back? They say "I am gay!"

by PhilsWager2 in

your going to enjoy the latest rumor i heard why i have not been to meeting for around nine months, i am a homosexual!

i was caught having a drink at one of the gay bars for business, yes people still talk business in bars.

revelation 17:4).and murderers, and fornicators (cf.

Pete Zahut

disillusioned 2a minute agoMy husband believes that anyone leaving does so because they can't live up to it not because they have stopped believing! He knows of course that I don't believe it but he can't come to terms with that.

Most of the ones I know who stay with it do so not because they really believe it.....

they do so because they think they SHOULD believe it.

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New Watchtower-- the End is coming in our lifetime again now??

by FusionTheism in

they just posted the simplified august study watchtower on jw.org.. paragraph 11 of the "expectation!

" article says this:.

"so even if we feel that we have been waiting a long time, this does not mean that the end is far away or that it is not coming in our lifetime.".

Pete Zahut

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What's the Worst Gossip You Heard About Why You were DF'ed, Faded or Left and Never Came Back? They say "I am gay!"

by PhilsWager2 in

your going to enjoy the latest rumor i heard why i have not been to meeting for around nine months, i am a homosexual!

i was caught having a drink at one of the gay bars for business, yes people still talk business in bars.

revelation 17:4).and murderers, and fornicators (cf.

Pete Zahut

I don't know of any gossip regarding why we faded but at one point there was a rumor being spread around about us after a sister asked us to raise her young daughter if anything were ever happen to her.

We have two sons of our own and the rumor being spread was that my wife was pining for a daughter of her own but that I had a non reversible vasectomy and this sister asked us to raise her daughter because she felt so sorry form my wife. (P.S. I never had a vasectomy and we only planned to have 2 kids and were perfectly happy having boys) It was strange to think that people were walking around with this kind of personal misinformation about me.

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"Foot in the Door", or "Apathy with a Cart"?

by stuckinarut2 in

we have all noticed this and commented in other threads.... but isn't it interesting that in times past, witnesses earned a reputation of being so determined to share "the kingdom message" that they would put their foot in the door at a house to keep the conversation going!.

now, the apathy and lack of effort in service; particularly with the literature carts shows the complete opposite!

yet...the end is supposed to be even closer right?

Pete Zahut

I am aware that there is a group of purists who would say that it's not jealousy over today's JW having it easier, but it's the power of conviction that JW's should have if they want to spread their word. And that conviction would make them be like the "foot-in-the-door" Witnesses.

I think most here couldn't care less about how they go about the work now....it's more a matter of pointing out the irony they see. I'm glad they aren't sticking their foot in the door or are being required to do as much but it does irk me that they once held scriptural reasonings over our heads as biblical proof that we should be working harder and doing more as the end drew near....not less.

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Young Girl Exposes Jehovah's Witnesses at school video goes VIRAL last 2 days 273,000 views

by Watchtower-Free in

original thread here.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/291080001/brave-high-school-student-exposes-abuse-corruption-within-jehovahs-witnesses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdvt_gyq-ls.

Pete Zahut

Billy the Ex-Bethelite a day ago

Those public speaking skills she learned at the Kingdumb Haul have really come back to bite Botchtower Corp in the a$s.

Her Counsel Slip will be marked as follows:

[G] Good [ I ]= Improved [W] = Work on

[G] Pitch, Power and Modulation.

[G] Repetition for Emphasis

[G] Audience Contact

[ I ] Use of Gestures.

[ I ] Use of Notes

[W] for Audience Encouraged To Use The Bible. (she totally blew that one)

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What are Some of your best JW Questions they can't answer?

by 1tMakesNoSence in

i made a thread on reddit regarding questions jw's can't answer.

was wondering what you guys can add to it..

Pete Zahut

1. Why is it that Christians can accept the idea that God had no creator and has always existed but they insist that the that the earth had to be created by someone?

If no one created God and if he has been here forever, then the rules of logic demand that the same can be said for the universe. The universe could have always existed and it evolved as scientists would have us believe, based on facts and plausible scientific theory.

2. The account of Jesus death in the Bible is a very sad one but everyone seemed so shocked that it happened even though the purpose of him coming here was to die and buy back life for mankind. If the people of earth at that time accepted him as he and the apostles had hoped, would he have just grown old and died even though he was perfect like Adam?

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Could you ever really relax in a self-driving car?

by Simon in

i love science and technology and we are living in a golden age right now.

the world has changed in so many incredible ways just in the time i've been alive.. my first car was a vauxhall viva.

it was brilliant because it was my first car and represented freedom.

Pete Zahut

With all the texting and driving that's going on these days, there are already lots of "self driving" cars.